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~ From Monday, October 13 ~

Instead of whining about when Prof. K returns...how about

Hello:

How about we help each other with new shoe reviews? The season is almost here, and I'm sure a few people have already tried on some of the new models.

I would throw in some thoughts here, but I haven't had time to play ball in over a month since I've been travelling so much. Any thoughts? I do wonder how the Shox Status feels.

Oh wait...I did try on the Zoom Flight 2k3 at the employee store and man the ankle thing HURTS. You can't wear ankle socks with that sucker because it'll just tear your ankle UP. And I picked up the all red patent leather TMac 2, but haven't played in it yet...

Oh well. Let's try and help each other out here, eh? Let's see how long we can be productive and not flame.

Regards:

RK

135 Comments So Far ~ Post Your Own
Allan posted this at 7:26 AM - October 13, 2003

I'm first.
I recently bought the Nike Air Force Max B which the Prof has already reviewed. I got mine in the white/black-met silver colorway. I didn't experience what the Prof told about the plastic lace support digging into the skin of your feet. It also doesn't seem clunky & heavy to me. It's one of the best shoes that I've ever played ball in & the cushioning, fit & stability is excellent. The ankle support is also OK. It's a nice shoe for balling & chilling. I'm tired of seeing all the people chilling on those white/white Air Force 1's. At least what I'm doing is something different. I'm a 6'0" guard by the way.

CamRon posted this at 7:35 AM - October 13, 2003

i bought the shox status, it has a very good fit, decent comfort and good cushioning all around. Better ankle support than any other shox shoe ive tried, other than the stunner. So all in all, its a pretty good shoe, the Prof will probably give it a 4 or 4.5 unless he experiences some problem i have yet to find.

alex posted this at 7:55 AM - October 13, 2003

nice thanks for the reviews

wwjd? posted this at 8:44 AM - October 13, 2003

I am currently wearing the Ultramatics. The cushioning is really nice, But you do need to break it in for a while, ( just one wearing for me) I find the ankle support to be lacking a bit, but other than that, they are really nice - great cushioning, great comfort and fit. I have the 2k3 also, once I break it in, its really good, of course you need to wear longer socks with them, I just wish they have more cushinong in them. My current favorite is the VCII, these are just awesome, Prof K. hit it on the dot with his review of these shoes. Peace.

KO posted this at 8:47 AM - October 13, 2003

I am excited about picking up the new T-Mac's, each of the older ones have always been up to par with my expectations.

ki3r4n posted this at 9:01 AM - October 13, 2003

hmm, i bought a pair of shox status 2 weeks ago.it seems that it is pretty darn comfy and it provides good ankle support.cushioning is also good even though i'm kinda on the light side.fit feels good without ankle slippage if you lace the shoe up snugly.only downside is that the upper creases quite easily like the supremacy and after just 2 weeks, a little stitching on the left shoe at the toebox has come out...no idea if its an isolated problem though.

peace, out & lets not flame this site with bull#@&*...we oughta appreciate the prof's willingness to set up this site & since its HIS site, he should have the right to update when he wants to, in his free time...whining & flaming the site won't help...

am looking forward to the new t-mac3s...wonder how they're gonna fare together with the Shox VC3...gonna go cop me a pair of ultraflights if i can if not VC2s...sweeet!

and 2 posted this at 9:28 AM - October 13, 2003

the status were a good fit on my feet and good cushioning..but Im still staying with my ultraflights...these babies are one of the best shoes i tried on yet..cant wait for the tmac 3...

JJ posted this at 9:31 AM - October 13, 2003

hmM
nicE
anyone wore e and1 rise be4??
thinka buyin em.. e white/orange 1s

Kevt23 posted this at 9:36 AM - October 13, 2003

i just bought the Adidas ADAN 3. Theyre comfortable, pretty good cushioning and they look great. The ankle support isnt great, but for me it's good enough

Swagger posted this at 10:34 AM - October 13, 2003

I havnt been shopping for new basketball shoes since last year, Right now fo indoor ball at the Y i'm using the And 1 Quest, last year's shoe. Everybody looks at me funny on the court because my shoes are beat up from streetball during the off season. Currently I'm lookin at Shox Status, T-Mac 3, or the VC2 once a pic gets released. But I still like the Shox Supremacy, but since the price dropped down i think alot of people will have them.

VoK posted this at 11:12 AM - October 13, 2003

Anyone try tie Bromium IV's? They seem to be real cheap (65 bucks!) and the Bromium III's were pretty nice. I'm thinkin of askin my coach to make them as team shoes...

internetlion posted this at 11:32 AM - October 13, 2003

Last week, I broke out a pair of Adidas Kobe 1's (white/black) I'd been keeping in storage for ages. Played, and damn ... the Kobe 1's are still the best basketball shoes out there, IMHO. Traction is terrific, cushioning is perfect. I wish Adidas would at least make the T-Mac's as good as the Kobe 1's. The T-Mac's are great, especially in terms of cushioning, but their traction could be better!

Canadiankorn posted this at 12:25 PM - October 13, 2003

TMAC;s are bad on traction? I loved the TMac 1's for their ability to stick to the court. I still wear my White/grey colorway all the time. Not only for basketball, but i also play college volleyball and they are the best shoes to wear (Adidas Climacool Response court work well for vball too) If i could find another pair of 1's, I would buy them for 150 easily...oh I also have the VC2's in white and grey and i find they dont have great court feel, but they make up for it in evetother categoy. well peace out and listen to bad religion always.

yj posted this at 12:59 PM - October 13, 2003

Hi guys, need some help here!

Heard that the 2k3s run big, is that true? I'm wearing size 11 for the ultraflights..what size should i take for the 2k3s?

Many thanks

Dez posted this at 1:19 PM - October 13, 2003

I bought the ATR Slamaze. Its an alright shoe its a good shoe for reebok i like it.

NHbball22 posted this at 1:29 PM - October 13, 2003

Hey guys, I have worn my Ultraflights for 3 uses now and the soles DO NOT have the traction that I LOVED in the flightposites. I'm thinking that it may just be some kinda film on the outsole though, so can anyone tell me how theirs are, and if they get better over time? Thanks alot!

Borsheglot posted this at 1:45 PM - October 13, 2003

For all you poor people out there :))))
here's a review of the New Balance BB 620.

It was really hard finding a decent shoe in the $65 category. Most ones are just real clunky shoes that look crappy and have no comfort whatsoever.

But I read Prof K's review of the BB 620s and decided to give them a try.

The shoes really impressed me. For such a little price you get a really comfortable shoe that's also really light. I was impressed how the inner is made of a very smooth seamless material at the toebox and cool plush at the ankle that wicks sweat away. It's pretty stable although Prof k doesn't think so :) but I always feel confident playing in them. The traction is great too.

If you're buying them wait until they break in. The leather upper breaks in after about 4 wearings and feels absolutely great then.
The only problems I've encountered is that the upper creases a little and paintwears off of the plastic structures and N letters on the heel. But it doesn't affect performance anyway.

So if you're a light 1 or 2 guard in search of an affordable hoops shoe, you should consider it a very good choice.

ao posted this at 1:50 PM - October 13, 2003

I bought the Ultraflights and they are the most comfortable kickz ive ever worn for ballin. I didnt think they would stand up to as much abuse they go through on my feet. Just one ? why are they on sale for $80?? Im thinkin about getting the ultraposites. The cushioning is madd thin and i feel like i can really explode off the wood on cuts because theres not too much cushioning that will slow me down. Im just scared that my feet are too wide!!!

ao posted this at 1:55 PM - October 13, 2003

oh yeah, does anybody know where i can get some nike air jet flights? i fell in love wwith them ever since i tried my friend's pair on.

word posted this at 3:01 PM - October 13, 2003

Hey, I got the Zoom Flight Turbines about a week ago and I wore them a few times and they felt kinda stiff and the cushioning was a little hard. DOes anyone know if they just take a while to break in or something? Comments much appreciated...

YANKEES ROCK!!

'Trix posted this at 3:31 PM - October 13, 2003

I wore my ultraflights once, and they felt aite. They still need to be broken in, but the monkey paw def. saved my ass more than a few times. but..bah, they got scratched. I'm thinkin of gettin the Questions Mid or NB BB880 for outdoors. (u can find the BB880's at www.sportchek.ca) for those who haven't heard of it.

jazzmon posted this at 3:43 PM - October 13, 2003

hey canadiancorn,

I have a bunch of used and ds t-mac 1's for sale. hit me up at jazz_m0n@hotmail.com Anyways, ultraposites and j's rank among my fav shoes to ball in.

Ag2k5 posted this at 4:40 PM - October 13, 2003

I'm lookin for really light, well cushioned, low cut high traction shoes for Volleyball. I use to wear the Jordan XIV and they were Godly both in Cushioning and especially in traction but they felt to...bluky and way to restricting around the ankle (While i do love that for B ball). I was wearing the New Balance 991s but they started ripping and i need new shoes. I have fairly wide feet...Any Ideas? I also don't wanna use nothing too knew like the Jordan XVIII low b/c...well those are a waste to use on the court. Someone help me...thanks

ao posted this at 4:46 PM - October 13, 2003

'trix the ultraflights can take a long time to break- like 4 or 5 wearings until the cushioning starts to soften. By then the material inside will begin to recede and the shoe will have more room.

50 CeNT posted this at 5:31 PM - October 13, 2003

Wassup Ya'LL !!!!
Let me start off by saying FUCCK ALL YA!!!
AO - What the fucck do u know about kicks? You don't know shiit fool so stop acting like poof K!
'Trix - eat a fat dick biatch!!

josh posted this at 5:41 PM - October 13, 2003

Hey canadiancorn, I got a pair of white/silver T-mac 1's. Only worn about 3 times. If interested plz email me at lkirshne@bellsouth.net

Will posted this at 6:15 PM - October 13, 2003


Have any of you guys heard anything about the JORDAN JUMPAN TEAM FLOW that is commin out in november. Does it have zoom air or not. if anyone knows anything please tell me

nbawsome posted this at 6:27 PM - October 13, 2003

in my opinion it is the best all around shoe in th shox line. I bought the shox limitless about 6 mo. ago and its performance is unmatched. Extremly comfortable and with performance to back it up. and for any of u who wear orthodox out there. it goes great with it. personally it the best shoe i have owned.

nbawsome posted this at 6:40 PM - October 13, 2003

have any of u seen the new and 1 team line. i was just on hte site and it looks like they are going more for a nike appearance than amything. anyway
peace

Erix posted this at 6:56 PM - October 13, 2003

Yo Will. The Jordan Jumpman Team Flow probably doesn't have Zoom Air it probly has Air Sole or Max Air, like the Jumpman Team FBI, which were excellent (I have them and they are true warriors). I assume the Flow will replace the FBI as one of Jordan's team shoes for the upcoming season. One thing I will say is that its outsole rules (similar to the XVIII and exactly like the FBI). I guess this is the new Jordan trend.

pimp posted this at 7:19 PM - October 13, 2003

i just copped the shox status and damn, the cushionin is the best ive eva felt. when i put em on i dunked it right away when i usually have to take a few jumps.
they at a good price too, so if u wanna good shoe go with the status

Mike Burn posted this at 7:59 PM - October 13, 2003

Yo Internetlion, I'm glad someone finally mentioned the Kobe 1's. Hands down my favorite shoes period! I have been searching for those for months. I has a pair when they first came out and I wore them 'til they opened up at the toe. Maybe someday adidas will re-issue them. Right now the Air Zoom Ultraflight are my favorite kicks. I little tough getting them on my big-ass feet but very snug but comfortable fit when on. They could use some more of those breathing holes on the plastic heel though. They really fog up and get stuffy after like five minutes of playing.

Pass-or-Shoot posted this at 8:32 PM - October 13, 2003

I wear them Jordan 18's, and while I agree with Prof. K about them being very comfortable, I think that ankle support could be better. I managed to land awkwardly on my feet while coming down from a jumper, and now my ankle is a little bit sore. Although I'd have to say that the ankle support provided was good enough to prevent my ankles from completely rolling over (and cause me to limp off the court and sit out the next couple of games), the fact that my ankle is still a little bit sore makes me wish that them Jordan's provided better ankle support.

Now I also used to wear them Shox Limitless, and with these kicks I actually felt the mokey paw structure in the shoe to snap my foot back into place everytime I landed awkwardly. So while the Show Limitless was little bit more uncomfortable because of the amount of support that it provided, I'd say that the loss in comfort is a small price to pay if the support provided by the shoe is good enough to prevent any injuries that might occur from a less supportive shoe.

21 posted this at 8:48 PM - October 13, 2003

To word.....
I got 2 pairs of turbines last christmas n i wore them for the rest of the ball season including all my other indoor ballin over the summer. This year i really am finding it difficult to part with them for the upcomin season cuz they get waaayyyyy better. I just noticed it lately for the most part.....all of a sudden at a camp bout a month ago i realised the difference......they had gone from great to INCREDIBLE!

lukas posted this at 8:54 PM - October 13, 2003

i have the shox status... nothing special, but they are nice

'Trix posted this at 9:08 PM - October 13, 2003

yo ao, thanks..but I think I got a fat toe or something, cuz with every shoe I ever worn, the first couple times i ball indoors with em, my toe always ends up in serious pain. The ultraflights were no exception. and also, when my shoes rip, its always the inner front part first. Do u have any idea what kinda "sickness" or "disease" that is? (or i dunno..abnormal feet?) I copped the question mids today. weeeeeeeeeeee.....

Schnitzberg posted this at 9:17 PM - October 13, 2003

21: I agree with you. I love the Turbines and 4 fiddy bucks its a steal.

VoK posted this at 9:26 PM - October 13, 2003

I dunno but the turbines seem a little unstable to me. I sprained my ankle BADLY in one of em and i'm still feeling the effects from 3 months ago. also, they don't seem to be that good outdoors. the stability really comes into play here and i've found that i'm shuffling my feet a lot more than my usual glide on defense.

short question: what's the difference between Zoom Air, Max Air, and Air Sole? Is any one better than the other?

wwjd? posted this at 9:43 PM - October 13, 2003

From what I know, the Air sole, I believe was the original air sole design by nike, it was designed as an alternative (think air bags) to the cushioning /impact protection technology then. While the Max air was designed to provide maximum cushioning / impact protection- downside is that the shoes tend to sit higher off the ground thus reducing court feel.But it ranks upthere with the Shox technology for shock protection. The Zoom air was designed to be a more responsive version of the air soles. Zoom air shoes are more often low to the ground and have better court feel, thus the responsiveness, although cushining is compromised. I personally love Max air/ Shox shoes as cushioning is my primary concern.

Johnny Dunker posted this at 9:46 PM - October 13, 2003

IMO, the XVII+ is better than the XVIII, both performance and appearance. I tried both shoe and found XVII+ provides more support so that I can perform a better game. I also have VC-2, but sometimes, felt a bit sore/ uncomfortable around lateral (I guess it is due to the shox system used).
I used to play with Kobe 1, but got ankle problem several times with that shoe.

iz0 posted this at 9:54 PM - October 13, 2003

yo pplz, anyone kno where i can get the t-mac 1's for real cheap? cuz ive been lookin everywhere and i cant find em anywhere. thanx id much appreciate the help.

kobes an innocent man.

wwjd? posted this at 10:02 PM - October 13, 2003

Vok,
I thnik this is more comprehensive than what I previously posted. Check it out.
http://pub175.ezboard.com/fniketalkfrm6.showMessage?topicID=42853.topic

a2b posted this at 10:06 PM - October 13, 2003

I know a lot of you are blinded by the swoosh, but have you guys ever tried the adidas a3 Electrify's or any of the new a3's? Is that as good/better/worse than the shox? Let me know, thanx ya'll.

Stracair posted this at 11:21 PM - October 13, 2003

Where can I get some Ultraflights? All I can find is Eastbay's, and they only offer them in 2 ugly-ass colors now.

King Handle posted this at 11:50 PM - October 13, 2003

Stracair:
U can get them @ www.footaction.com in tons of color ways. I tell you man, I am set with the Ultraflites 4 life. I bought 2 pairs of all black, 2 pairs of navy/white, 2 pairs of black/red and a pair of wite/red. They are the most comfortable shoes on par with the jetflights but better fit and support. That leaves me drooling.................

King Handle posted this at 11:55 PM - October 13, 2003

I absolutely LOVE zoom air: aka the TURBINES, ULTRAFLITES, FLITEPOSITE III, 2K3s
Nothing come close to the cushioning set up of the FLITEPOSITE IIIs. Although they require break in time if I don't wear them for a while.

donkey posted this at 12:19 AM - October 14, 2003

i bet everybody here cant wait to get their hands on the t-mac:), including me.

donkey posted this at 12:20 AM - October 14, 2003

t-mac 3s, i meant

King Handle posted this at 12:20 AM - October 14, 2003

Hi people;
please allow me, Mr. King Handle 2 give you my review on the Nike Air Uptempo Maximums. When I first saw the shoes I thought they were hideous. But their looks begin to grow on me on the court. As soon as I step into the shoe, my feet were padded with a silky smooth, seam-less partial inner-sleeve. The outer of the shoes were made of the combo of full grain leather and suede, along with a heel fit strap. What impressed me a lot was that unlike most full length max air shoes, they have a low to the ground, some how responsive ride at the forefoot and yet like the other max air based shoes they provide firm but forgiving cushioning feel at the heel. What surprised me even more is that they require no break in time. I was able to play with maximum comfort and fit right out of the box and through out all 8 wearing. The fit is just as good as comfort, forefoot and heel. The hidden lacing system kept my forefoot in place and thanks to the heel fit strap, I felt absolutely no heel slip. Another thing that awed me was the traction. The surfaces of the out soles were almost flat and the pattern looked like it will result in a lot of slip and slide. But as long as I keep the out soles clean, it provides excellent traction. Speaking of the out sole, it is about the only downside the shoes have. The squared off out soles are a bit clunky but it results in better stability. To sum up, the Maximums are the real deal for big guards and forwards who wants the most impact protection, light weight (17.6 oz) and in comfort and fit. It is not ideal for point guards who want a shoe with less restriction at the ankle. I wouldn’t call the Maximums a good buy, but the quality of the shoes is simply constructed under care.

Ratings:
Comfort and fit: 5/5
Cushioning: 5/5
Ankle support: 4.5/5

'Trix posted this at 2:10 AM - October 14, 2003

yo king handle, nice review. (any review anybody does that takes more than 5 minutes to do should get some respect and love) what size did u try? (cuz to me, 17.6 is not light at all)

'Trix posted this at 2:28 AM - October 14, 2003

and a2b: not that i don't ilke A3, but the only ones i can find in canada are the A3 basketballs. (ugh...)

MJackson posted this at 2:28 AM - October 14, 2003

Anybody try the Roy jones jr chin checka? they look coo to kick back with

wwjd? posted this at 3:16 AM - October 14, 2003

King Handle
I was debating with myself whether to get the Maximums or the Ultramatics, in the end I got the Ultramatics.I like the way they look a little better. I believe they are more or less the same in terms of stablity, comfort and cushioning. The Maximums do have the advantage in fit and ankle protection with the ankle strap. The Ultramatics have awesome traction, I have yet to experience any slippage in them. Hats off to you for the great review

Samo c",) posted this at 3:53 AM - October 14, 2003

sup peeps,
Le Bron ur da man!
peace.

sauce posted this at 3:56 AM - October 14, 2003

damn people really are getting bored and lonely without Prof's reviews...I give u guys credit for tryin to fill in for him but until he comes back we won't be getting those awesome reviews.
oh by the way i got the turbines this summer (on clearance sale for $29.99 at CHAMPS)...they're very comfortable but those damn laces won't stay tied! Anyone know where I can get Jordan XVII for a decent price? Oh and it has to ship to Europe cos damn kicks are hell expensive here

ao posted this at 5:10 AM - October 14, 2003

yo 'trix im no doctor, but you might have a little deformity in your toes. For that use moleskin pads, they'll cushion your toes and stop them from moving. But, you might have gout, which is really a serious problem. It's a kind of arthritis in your feet (does shaq have this?) that has a symptom of pain in the big toe. Maybe you wanna have the doc check it out. Here are some links about this stuff

abnormalities-http://my.webmd.com/content/healthwise/78/19484.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}

gout- http://my.webmd.com/content/article/44/2945_401.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}

A2theK posted this at 5:34 AM - October 14, 2003

Sup ;;; Heard about some kind of new Fila DUCATI hoops, do anyone know about thoses shoes ????

tcek posted this at 7:03 AM - October 14, 2003

Anyone has any good or bad personal reviews on Jordan XVII+? replies muCh appreciated!

Slash posted this at 7:49 AM - October 14, 2003

I just picked up a pair of Air Jordan Retro 9 low a few weekes ago. They're the white/patent blue style that wasn't too popular, but I loved 'em. Only $40, and they're great for hoops, or chillin'. I finally got some good playin' time with 'em on Friday at the gym, and they're perfect. No slippage, great traction, and very comfortable. Very balanced, so even though they're low top, I never had any worries about my ankle. One of the best shoes I've tried in years. Other than that, I'm still kickin' the And1 24 Karat low from last season for outdoor hoops. Man, I loved that shoe. Great looks, great cushioning, very durable, very light, and other than a few moderate spains on the ankle, a great shoe. That's it for my amature mini-reviews. Anybody have any info/pics on the new Kobe's yet? I've heard that they're going to be huarache, but that's all I know. Peace, out. We miss you Prof. K.!

The Scout posted this at 8:05 AM - October 14, 2003

I'm big on the 2K3s. I like a shoe slightly stiff, so it works for me. Probably the best socks to go with for them (I wear two pair) are the Jumpman quarters over a thinner pair of socks. Plus, the Midnight Navy/White combo is just HOT.

Shotcaller posted this at 8:48 AM - October 14, 2003

I'm currently rocking DADA's Cdubbz LOW. The Prof gave these a bad review, but I couldn't disagree more.
These shoes are lightweight and super comfortable, and I picked them up for $35. I also wear a couple pairs of Jordans and And1's, and the DADA's are my definite favorite...I don't understand why they get so many negative comments - probably just the Nike lovers that can't see anything past a swoosh.

Ffm posted this at 11:20 AM - October 14, 2003

Someone asked about a3s ealier?
well i bought the white/silver dunkfests a month ago and they are great! on the same level as my t-mac 2s i had before. great traction, very comfortable and you do notice the a3 in the forfoot. great technology! if you need a lot of anke support they wont be right for you!
i would rate them like this:
comfort: 4/5
traction: 4/5
cushioning: 5/5
ankle support: 3/5

YO posted this at 12:14 PM - October 14, 2003

NikeTalk just announced a new price guide site called kicksguide.com
there's some articles and reviews in there too
pretty cool if ya cant wait till Prof come bak

dredre posted this at 2:52 PM - October 14, 2003

what's up sneaker heads? Can anyone provide info on where to cop
the Jordon retro 12# in the dope colorway (black/light blue). I
know that it's an exclusive sneaker that the Great Nike Empire
is releasing soon. Holla back if you know what I'm saying. Peace.

word posted this at 2:54 PM - October 14, 2003

Hey, thanks 21...and I agree with whoever said it...those laces are damn hard to keep tied.

Hey 'Trix...I have the same problem with my little toe. But it only hurts for the first few wearings in a new shoe...but I don't know what it is.

tmacfan57557 posted this at 4:22 PM - October 14, 2003

yo A2B i dont have the a3 electrify but i have the a3 adistar a runnung shoe and OMG these have teh best cushioning out of any shoe i have ever had by far i owned two shox (suprmecay and vc1) and the a3 its just just explosive like k says and o i luv my adistars so much and im definently copping a pair of electrifys aand OMG nike dropped kobe im watching around the horn right now and they just said nike dropped kobe THOUGHTS!!! where will he go K1?lol

ao posted this at 5:00 PM - October 14, 2003

yo does anybody know if nike made any "cosmetic seconds" of the air jordans? that means they might have some excess glue or spots on the sole, but no real problems i guess. they're sold a lot cheaper than the regular shoes.

and

What do you prefer? adiprene+ or zoom air

anonymous posted this at 5:29 PM - October 14, 2003

zoom air, no doubt

Retrokid posted this at 5:33 PM - October 14, 2003

sup ya'll

Ernest Kim posted this at 5:34 PM - October 14, 2003

coleman sux #@&*

Prof. K posted this at 5:35 PM - October 14, 2003

i'm back!!!!!

anonymous posted this at 5:35 PM - October 14, 2003

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Prof. K posted this at 5:38 PM - October 14, 2003

Hi, I'm sorry I've been gone for such a long time. I'll update soon. Just be patient.

posted this at 5:39 PM - October 14, 2003

dat ain't the real prof

Retrokid posted this at 5:41 PM - October 14, 2003

Hey! welcome back!

Prof. K posted this at 5:42 PM - October 14, 2003


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Seize LX


overall:


comfort & fit:


cushioning:


ankle support:


weight:*
19.4 oz

* based on a Men's U.S. size 11. For comparison, a can of soda weighs 13 oz.

list price: $84.95
colorways: black/silver (as pictured), black/white, navy/off white
use: hoops, indoor and outdoor
position: guard/forward
key technologies: 3action cushioning system, SpeedTech
release date: fall 2001
pros: good fit, very stable, very good cushioning, very good court feel, excellent traction
cons: chafing at the forefoot, on the heavy side
company: Fila Sports S.p.A
Viale Cesare Battista 26
13900 Biella
Italy

Buying Advice:
The Fila Seize LX is almost an excellent shoe. Buy it if you’re sure that the stitching in the inner will not chafe against your feet. Forget it otherwise.




The Fila Seize LX is an excellent all-around shoe, with one major exception. This is unfortunate because the shoe incorporates a lot of technologies that show a lot of promise.
by Professor K, posted January 24, 2002

I had never worn a Fila shoe of any sort, basketball or otherwise, so I had no idea of what to expect from the Fila Seize LX. My initial impressions were very positive as the shoe is well built and all of the materials have a high-quality feel. The design is actually quite similar to that of the Jordan Jumpman Team Masterpiece, but I think the Seize LX is better executed.

My positive impressions of the Fila Seize LX continued after I laced them up for my first test wearing. The shoe is very comfortable and provides a great low-to-the-court feel. Given that my foot felt like it was sitting just above the surface of the court I was a bit concerned that the cushioning might not be adequate, but more on that in a minute. The shoe is a bit roomy on the inside, particularly above the toes, but I found that it still did a good job of keeping my feet in place inside of the shoe (the shoe's roominess and removable sockliner are big pluses for players who use custom orthotics). All-told, the Fila Seize LX felt very good on my feet right out of the box.


figure 1. As you can see here the upper of the Fila Seize LX is quite simple. The large rubber wraps that extend up from the outsole help to give the shoe a very stable feel, but add considerably to the shoe's weight.


Once I started to play in the shoes what really caught my attention was the traction that the Seize LX provides -- it is excellent. The shoe employs a traditional herringbone pattern for most of the outsole, but at the tip of the forefoot the shoe has a series of slightly curved ridges (see figure 2). Since the outsole pattern is fairly standard, the element that seems to give the shoe its stellar traction is the material of the outsole. It appears to be made a particularly sticky rubber compound. This was a very good start.

Now to the cushioning. As I had never worn a Fila shoe before I was particularly interested in their cushioning system. It's something that Fila calls 3action. Modeled after the paws of a Kangaroo the 3action system employs multiple cushioning elements dispersed across four sections of the midsole; three at the heel and one at the forefoot (see the visible 3action cushioning element at the heel in figure 3). Inside each cushioning element are several 3action "pistons" that absorb impact forces. I don't know what the pistons are made of, but the Seize LX did an excellent job of providing cushioning for hard drives and landings. As I mentioned above, I was a bit concerned about the cushioning in the Fila Seize LX when I first started testing, but after my fifth wearing I was totally sold on 3action. It felt great and I noticed no perceptible degradation in cushioning performance over the course of my testing.

Working in tandem with the 3action cushioning system is something that Fila calls SpeedTech. Similar in concept to the carbon fiber midfoot support shanks used by Nike in their high-performance hoops shoes and adidas' TORSION system, SpeedTech serves several functions. First is overall stability. Made of a combination of Kevlar and carbon fiber, the SpeedTech structure makes the Seize LX torsionally rigid, preventing the heel of the foot from rotating independently of the forefoot. When combined with the shoe's substantial heel counter, the structure makes it very unlikely that you'll roll your ankle in the Seize LX.


figure 2. In my haste to test the Fila Seize LX I forgot to take photographs of the shoe before wearing it. The shots here are of the shoe after five tough test wearings. As you can see, the shoe holds up very well to on-court wear.


The SpeedTech structure also helps to dissipate impact forces by spreading them across the surface of the forefoot, effectively preventing impacts from becoming concentrated on any one metatarsal bone. This helps to reduce foot fatigue and can also help to prevent serious foot injuries.

Finally, the SpeedTech structure makes the forefoot of the shoe actively spring back to its original shape after it is flexed. Very much like the carbon fiber spring plate employed in the Nike Air Jordan XI and the TORSION system in the adidas KOBETWO, this is meant to provide an added spring in your step. It's tough to say whether or not SpeedTech is actually effective in this regard, but, much like those other shoes, the Fila Seize LX feels great on the court.

So, with all of this good stuff, what's not to like? The one failing of the Fila Seize LX is painfully simple, in quite a literal sense. The shoe has a strip of stitching that runs along the inner, from one side of the forefoot to the other. It's the only exposed stitching within the shoe, but, unfortunately, it runs right alongside the widest part of the forefoot and can (and in my case did) cause chafing on the outer side of the foot. I didn't notice this until partway through my second wearing, but as I continued to wear the shoe the irritation became worse. By the end of my third wearing the outer side of my left forefoot was raw and very red and the discomfort made it very difficult to continue wearing the shoe.


figure 3. Here a portion of Fila's 3action cushioning system is visible at the heel. While it may appear similiar to Nike's visible Air, it is quite different in function.


This may not be a problem for everyone since it depends partially on the shape of the wearer's foot, but the location of the stitching makes it likely that this will be a problem for many. It's also possible that the chafing could be mitigated by wearing very thick socks, but then that may cause other fit problems.

I was disappointed to have experienced this problem, for one, because it was painful. But also because the Fila Seize LX is otherwise such a wonderful shoe. It does everything that a hoops shoe needs to do; provide good fit, protect the foot and body from impact forces and provide a stable platform for movement in any direction, and does so at a very reasonable price. The full-grain leather upper should also prove to be very durable and hold up to play both indoors and out. These all make the Fila Seize LX a shoe well worth recommending, but my problem with chafing means that I cannot. The upside here is that Fila clearly has a promising suite of technologies and, though I was ultimately disappointed by the Seize LX, I am very interested in seeing what Fila has coming next in the basketball space.

Who's Worn It
Grant Hill (F- Orlando Magic), Glen Rice (G/F- Houston Rockets)




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'Trix posted this at 5:50 PM - October 14, 2003

^^
Rolling my eyes...if you were prof k, you wouldn't use a dot..and looking at the time between retrokid and pro posted, i'd say you were the same guy trying to do who knows what....

'Trix posted this at 5:53 PM - October 14, 2003

yo ao, thanks a lot (wow, for a non doctor that's a lotta biz) but like word said; i usually only feel it hte first couple times..then it becomes normal..i think its cuz of the way i walk or something..inwardsly? not sure but thanks=) (perhaps i'll get a doctor to check it out, but id on't think its THAT big a problem. maybe i overexgerrated

Baller21 posted this at 6:54 PM - October 14, 2003

Posted January 24, 2002? Yeah whoever spends their time creating a fake Prof. K review really doesn't have a life...

Mrs D. Femia posted this at 7:46 PM - October 14, 2003

Looks like ao and Trix have got something going on!
Why don't you two set up a date or something?

Anyway, does anybody know when the new colorways for aj18 lows are coming out? (white/red) I wanna get a pair for my son.

Retrokid posted this at 9:31 PM - October 14, 2003

hey

King Handle posted this at 9:54 PM - October 14, 2003

I am a 6'1 guard, about 190lb. Wearing size 12, that should explain y it is 17.6 oz. wut position do u play?

King Handle posted this at 9:55 PM - October 14, 2003

sorry, by the way i was answering TRIX's question

Hollah posted this at 10:04 PM - October 14, 2003

Professor K, when these little kids get on here and start breakin' off F-bombs and other assorted vulgarities, you should block their IP addresses from the Log. Just a suggestion. It's one thing to use an expletive to emphasize a point, but quite another to just pointlessly cuss.

King Handle posted this at 10:10 PM - October 14, 2003

Prof. K, proof us that ur real!!!!!!!!!!!!

VoK posted this at 10:12 PM - October 14, 2003

Yeah. I think some sort of IP address scheme is necessary to keep all the spam of this log. But compared to what it was 2 weeks ago, this log is clean as a...well you know what i mean. I guess things are starting to improve...

vikingmiera posted this at 10:45 PM - October 14, 2003

First off, Proeffor k. we miss you man. Now, has anyone out there had any experience with the dada c4 mid? Chris Webber's signature shoe. The reason being that I saw them on eastbay for 40 bucks ( the playoff version too). If you or someone you know has had them let me know what you think of them.

ragnarok posted this at 10:47 PM - October 14, 2003

I think someone asked about the traction on the Ultraflight. Basically, the outsole of the Ultraflight is designed for indoors bball, so the traction is great indoors, it is not quite as good outdoors.

And for the guy that has the problem with Turbines' shoe laces getting untied, I hear that tucking the laces under the shroud works pretty well.

vikingmiera posted this at 10:57 PM - October 14, 2003

Also on the dada's how do the sizes run as opposed to nike?
Thanks

Dizzyd23 posted this at 11:01 PM - October 14, 2003

i also had a problem with the Ultraflights Traction.
At the beginning, i felt that i just couldn't get the grib on the court that i know it should be getting. It felt as if there was a some sort of film on the outsole. However, after at least 3 or 4 wearings, the traction gradually improved. I took notice to this, and scrubbed on the bottom of the shoe with just water and a brush. Since then, THe Ultraflights have been pure heaven, out performing most of my Jordans i presume. I do agree that traction may be the weakest aspect of the shoe, it cannot compare to the traction of the Jordan XVIII, but the Ultralfight's Cushioning and comfort are next to none.

'Trix posted this at 11:01 PM - October 14, 2003

Mrs. D Femia: date? (sigh....) very weird statement for a parent. (but i guess i shouldn't be stereotypical..parents can make weird jokes too) From what i've heard, i don't think there is a white/red colorway, they just gonna make the caro the last, and move on to the 18.5's and etc.

To king handle: i don't play school ball or nothing anymore, but when i drop in; i usually play guard...the slasher at times i guess; but im more of a shooter. (5'9, 130-135; 9.5 ultraflights)

Dizzyd23 posted this at 11:02 PM - October 14, 2003

and one more thing, Dada's are a joke, just my opinion.

joeyjoejoe posted this at 12:39 AM - October 15, 2003

does anyone know how to clean the air soles so that it becomes clear and translucent again?

tarvuz posted this at 2:34 AM - October 15, 2003

my review is that I want the NBA season to start. I want to see if mister super hyped plays better than Chamberlain did his rookie year. If not then he can suck my fat Dee yock.

Borsheglot posted this at 2:02 PM - October 15, 2003

Hey wanted to ask about non-hoops shoes.

Has anybody worn the new a3 Trainer, the one with the strap? the quality and the looks brilliant to me, but has anybody wore hem? Are they comfortable for everyday wear?

rodney posted this at 9:26 PM - October 15, 2003

the a3 trainers are pretty sick but the twin strike (the running shoes with full length a3) are the best shoes with an a3 impletation. i was given a pair of sonics green and yellow ultraflights for my bday a long time ago, and i was wearing em a little big for the whole time. finally i grew into those and damn!!!!! those are the greatest shoes ever! incredible shoes!

rpcjr72 posted this at 1:53 AM - October 16, 2003

okay it's not a hoops shoe and it's not on sale but if there is one shoe EVERYBODY should at least try on it's the Nike Shox Ride - incredible feel right out the box. by the way i'm putting the Jordan 18's at the top of the list - followed by GP III's

S Kool posted this at 3:53 AM - October 16, 2003

Droppin 20 points a game. Dishin 6 assist and 5 boards. MVP!!!

Slash posted this at 5:38 PM - October 16, 2003

Hey, JoeyJoeJoe: To get those "windows" lookin' like new, try a thin coating of aerosal lacquer. It works great on all my old Air Max shoes and lasts for weeks. An easy inexpensive fix to make those old kicks look new again.

James posted this at 8:18 PM - October 16, 2003

New Balance 1001,

I have been a loyal Adidas basketball wearer since Nike was offering some outragious models that look great but perform average. Subsequently turned me off. As a kid Nike was the hit Jordan's and all but upon closer look and closer feel, even Jordan's play more on image and belief than anything else. Some out there probable think that this is all bull, but how many of them have played high school and college ball. Dont be fooled and dont be manipulated into thinking that a Jordan for $180 is better than a shoe from a hundred year old shoe company in New Balance, Adidas (70 plus years) or Puma (70 plus years) It is all about how you accept to be manipulated. A good manipulated as Jordan himself is (Read, How to Be Like Mike) will make you feel good while he is victimizing you for 45points. All the while you will be talking about the time you played him for the rest of you life.

New Balance 1001 Basketball Shoes, I have never used a New Balance shoe before. And the reason I say used is because shoes are just that a tool. And, the New Balance 1001 BB Shoe is a great tool. What I have come to realize is that the technologies accross the basketball shoe market has been blended a bit. To me that is why a shoe company like And 1 has been able to forge a market under the fierce competitive basketball shoe market. Why do you think they have the videos, the tour, the clothing. All for manipulation, make you feel good so that you can purchase their shoes. Similar to the music industry. The patents for all of the material used on all the uppers of 95 percent of the shoes on the market are expired. Which means that everyone can use the same material. This is said for the EVA and other foams in the shoe, most of which each shoe calls something like adiprene, phylon, Abzorb. Anyways the NB 1001 are a well built shoe, well researched, herring bone traction. It uses Azorb SBS in the front. Which is a soft rubber like material with hollow areas to disperse shock. Feels less responsive than adi-prene +, but it is used in a different application alsoo. Where as adi-prene + is for propulsion. It has the standard torsion technology that other shoes use. New Balance calls it Stability Web. In the rear they use a system called N-Ergy a three pocket system similar to Nike's first use of their three pocket airsoles that allow for different pressure points under the heel. Helps with feet that pronate.

As far as the looks. The NB 1001 Look almost exactly like the adidas SL III's except that they wrap the patent material around the toe box. Internalized lasing for a good fit and good looks.

Conclusion: Most wont buy this shoe and only those who understand basketball shoes as a tool first and fashion second will appeciate the workmanship and research involed in this shoes presentation. Yes New Balance is pushing this shoe through ads, but who isnt. For $100 dollars this shoe is a great competitor that will get looked over.

End note Consumerism is all about manipulation, to manipulate and be manipulated. Make the products for less and sell for more. With this shoe as a Consumer, I chose to beleive or get manipulated by a 100 year shoe company to make me a product to perform at high levels on the basketball court 6 hours a week. In college it used to be 15 hours per week.

jeremy posted this at 4:01 PM - October 17, 2003

i just got those old iversons that they keep bringing back. The original questions i think there called. i got them in the white colorway with the north carolina blue outsole color. they are so sweet. And for such an old shoe, they have great comfort even though they run on a simple eva based cushioning. The hexalight structure (bee hive looking thing) makes the shoe even lighter and its just a great soft ride. i got them for 70 on sale in champs and ide recommend them. And even though i got the low cuts, they still give great support to my foot and ankle. overall great shoe, especially if you have a wide foot cause the laces are on the out side of the tounge so they can really accomodate wide feet.

wwjd? posted this at 8:48 AM - October 18, 2003

review for the ultramatics? Ok, Here goes.... (remember this is not by any means a scientific review. It' s just based on my own subjective experience)

Comfort and Fit : 5/5 - I got no complains whatsovever. The leather upper is soft and supple. took me about 10-15 minites to break it in . Although it didn't incorporate any inner bootie, all the stichings are all well covered by spandex-like fabric, coupled with just the right amount of padding, I am happy to say that I experienced no chafing. I got no extra movement with my foot inside the shoes. Heel fit is also good. It offered a locked down fit for me.

Cushioning : 5/5 What can I say, it is a full length air max shoe, its supposed to provide excellent cushioning from the get go. It did a great job absorbing the impacts from running and jumping. I am heavy for my height, I did experience some minor shin splint initially, although after half a game, it went away ( I did need to rest for about 5 minutes.

Ankle support:3/5 it could be better, but becauseI got bad ankles, I felt that it didn't provide as much ankle support as I would want to have, Maybe it is because I was spoiled by the great ankle support from wearing the VCII, 2k3 and Promodel 2G Patent. This is probablythe only major "flaw" I see from this shoe. I managed to tweak my ankle on my initial wearing, although, I felt that the stability clips found on both sides of the shoes did a great job from preventing the injury to be worse (it kinda caught my ankle from completely rolling over, the "clips" are kind of like the ones found in the Air Max Finisher, although not as extensive)

Weight: 4/5 could be lighter but, plenty light for me. I didn't bother me at any point of my wearing.

I was expecting it to be a bit clunky, although, it can't match the court feel fo the 2k3, it was a pleasant surprise to find the Ultramatic to be quite responsive. Overall a great shoe, with great comfort, great fit, and great impact protection. It could use a bit more ankle protection but that' just me. So... that's my unscientific review after about playing in the Ultramatics for about 6 games. I hope this helps

drue posted this at 1:38 PM - October 18, 2003

Dada isn't a joke. I got Dada 4th Quarter's in a white/chrome colorway. I really like the shoes. There is much more stability in the 4th quarter than there were in the Cdubbz.

But, I have the Adidas A3 electrify and those are damn good shoes.

drue posted this at 1:39 PM - October 18, 2003

Dada isn't a joke. I got Dada 4th Quarter's in a white/chrome colorway. I really like the shoes. There is much more stability in the 4th quarter than there were in the Cdubbz.

But, I have the Adidas A3 electrify and those are damn good shoes.

andy posted this at 3:19 PM - October 18, 2003

does anyone have experience with the Nike East 2 West rise mid?
i just picked up a pair for 40 bucks at nordstrom rack in chicago. they also had some stunners in white navy size 13. other thanthat they had lots of white purple shoes for balling, so if anyone has a purple team that lives near chicago, check it out.
right now i'm balling in black 2k3's, anyone lookin for shoes cop a pair for 60 bucks at finishline.com. they also had they white royal, white silver, white red, and navy silver for 60.

runway posted this at 9:47 AM - October 19, 2003

iam gettin the 2k3s in black\black, and so i guess i will have to buy some of those socks that j-kidd wears that go up to the bottom of his shins.

Andy posted this at 11:21 AM - October 19, 2003

The best bet for the 2k3's is to get a pair of longer socks and fold them over ON THE INSIDE. I've always done that and haven't experienced any pain in the ankle.

justn posted this at 3:51 PM - October 19, 2003

Alright I am a long time Zoom Flight Turbine person and I've tested them in every possible situation: here's whats up:
they pretty much sucks outdoors, it seems they werent really designed for hard courts. Indoors, they really shine, moreso for the lighter peoples, im pretty light and i find that their traction system allows me to stop on a dime an allows great overall traction. As for the feel- sure it takes a few times to break em in, but these shoes are some of the most comfortable I've ever worn- (i have a long narrow foot) not to mention they are by far the lightest and lightest on your foot (responsive) i've ever felt. As for the laces, sometimes they do come undone- i recomend a double bow, and tuck it inside the shroud if you can- that way it keeps it tight.
thats all for now
p.s i think im about to buy another pair for 50 bucks
pps- using hacetone (nail polish remover) helps clear away most of the colorations on the patent leather
peace,
J

Koe posted this at 10:00 PM - October 22, 2003

I have the VCS in carolina blue, and ALL CHROME CDUBBZ 230/1000, the cdubbz are quite good for what everyone are sayin about them, maybe the all chrome ones were better or something. THE VCS ARE AWESOME, everyone STICK WITH THE OLD SHOES they are much better, an exception is probably the ultraposites, my friend has those and they are good he says.

BigBen06 posted this at 1:02 AM - October 23, 2003

to the zoom air-adiprene question

adiprene is hella comfortable but i've had a couple of them pop on me after ive had the shoes for a while.

Blake Armstrong #00 posted this at 11:24 AM - October 24, 2003

The new Bromium IV's are phenominal. The cusioning is top-notch adiPrene, and the Torsion stability system give it a T-MAC feeling. They may not be much to look at, and some may consider them ugly, but they hold nothing back in the area of quality, just like the bromiums before them. And their low list price, and all around quality at every postion make them a perfect choice for team shoes. I would reccomend them to anyone who appreciates quality basketball shoes at an affordable price

ar_mike posted this at 3:55 PM - October 26, 2003

Do you guys know why all the shoe reviews stopped?....

MadUps posted this at 8:30 PM - October 26, 2003

T-MAC 3s are out and I just got em. Haven't had em long enough to judge but so far, it feels reminiscent to its excellent predecessor, the T-MAC 2. It still has a soft, plushy feeling to the cushioning and it should prove to be as effective if not more than the T-MAC 2. I think it's also made to wick away sweat. For those who found the T-MAC 2 a little too tight, the T-MAC 3 is a little bit looser but still provides a good fit. It's a little change from the T-MAC 2 but is more similar to the T-MAC. I don't know if the side panels do anything about ankle support, but it feels pretty stable for now and a bit higher up the ankle than the TM2. Let's just wait what Prof. K has to say, but the T-MAC 3 hasn't really changed from the excellent performance, but incorporates a futuristic and kinda freaky look.

Si-unyil posted this at 8:58 PM - October 26, 2003

I just bought the XVII+ after some considerations over the XVIII (the XVII+ was sold at 50% discount, but that's not really my consideration). I found that XVII+ is better than XVIII as I got narrow feet, also it support the ankle better. I also have VC2, a very good bball shoe IMO, but somehow I like the XVII+ better when bballing.
The next shoe I wanna buy is Shox VC3, saw a friend wore it and very much like it, I might skip TMAC3 as I think there is no new stuff in it.

Peace'

Bus Driver posted this at 6:20 PM - October 27, 2003

anyone know why prof k stopped posting d shoe reviews?! putangina he got a herpes!

Leandro Roman posted this at 6:22 PM - October 27, 2003

yah, i tink he took to much VIAGRO... in d US, viagra=bullshet... we hv VIAGRO.. What is it?! well, u take too much ur BAYAG GROOOOOOOWWWWW...... haha... i covered it wit lumpia wrapper, nd its okay.. I'm abstaining!!!!! putangina, too much lyk dat lyk dat, he got herpes!!!!

(J)AZ posted this at 6:20 PM - October 30, 2003

Yo wasssup playas ne know where i could find a pair of And 1 Standing O Lows or And 1 Nightmares in size 12 cuz them shoes r off da chain?!?!?

Country Boy posted this at 8:23 PM - October 30, 2003

The Garnett III's are the best shoes ever...

richard bates posted this at 2:39 PM - November 18, 2003

i think you should come out with some air force ones all black
with the white stitching.

alimoe posted this at 4:49 AM - November 28, 2003

Alright first off, i MUST SAY THE a3 BASKETball is not good, its like an albatross for your feet(21oz) I got them half-off on eastbay....Now I am deciding now between the Jordan 17 low, 18 low and the uptempo snesation and uptempo player. They are all about the same price. I am a 5'9 168 pg type, so which would be the better buy???

Jeff posted this at 12:23 AM - November 30, 2003

I have picked up several new pairs of shoes lately, my favorite being the Jordan Pure Plus, which is a modified version of the very good Jordan Pure. I loved the first one, so I got these and they are awesome, also. The retro 8 low's aren't very good though just wear those for floss.

Lyrakil posted this at 3:17 PM - November 30, 2003

Right now im wearin my ultraposites i got for $75.00 at macy's. Damn thats a nice sale price. Theyre comfortable, but the forefront thing the prof. talked about is theyre. ive yet to break them in, but theyre pretty comfortable.

Peace!

WantedGP posted this at 12:35 PM - December 03, 2003

LeBron James' new shoes is coming out, check finishline. It is like a old school shoes. Anybody already had it ? How is the midsole ?

Jack posted this at 5:06 PM - December 04, 2003

I have the Nike Air Signature Players in gold, which i got about mid-September, and have worn about 1-3 times a week. At first, I found they were a little too big (my fault, I ordered off Footlocker.com) but the inner sock and good lacing system really make up for it, with little raising of the ankle.
I have two real big problems with the shoes though: 1.) the gold foamposite coating rubs off real easy along the raised edges and I don't know if that's just from my own colorway, but it's mostly from normal wear and tear, but it chaffes real bad when it's marked by another shoe, not uniformly like the rest of the chaffing on the edges. 2.) my bigger problem: it's that the arch (yeah, the Prof. mentioned it in the review) is real steep on your foot, but I surprisingly found that instead of giving you pain during and after wearing the shoes, it only gives you this (albeit annoying) burning feeling along your arch and a bit of your sole, but that might also be caused by how big the shoes are too, i'm saying that probably if they fit you well, you won't have the same problem.
Although the burning is a minor distraction, it dissapears when you take the shoe off and also after about a half-hour with the shoe on. One other thing, it took me quite a while to break the shoe in, but that i think is also due to the size difference between my foot and the shoe.
Overall, it's an awesome shoe, the Air pockets (Air the forefoot, Max Air in the back) are amazingly absorbent when coming down from orbit, as you don't feel a thing, and the inner sock is very innovative and helps give the shoe an amazing feel on your foot. I'd have to disagree a bit with the Prof. though, as i don't find the shoes to have that high of a court, because the only time they roll is when i wear them with the laces untied during my pre-practice shootarounds. I'd recommend the shoe to anyone who wants a low price (29.99) alternative for some old shoes with some great technology.
(The foamposite keeps it light but still supportive, and the inner sock, my first shoe with one, is my favourite part, for reasons already stated above.) Go out, buy the shoe while you still can, the last few are getting chewed up fast on Footlocker.com.

KO lover posted this at 1:28 PM - December 07, 2003

Why u guys hating on the a3???? They're alright, but the internal bootie stretch after a while. And anybody who can hook me up with a pair of white/royal or white/red ultraflights for mad cheap?????? Like $60 or something. 'Cus I can't find them no more except for footaction, and they sell 'em for $80. Weren't they $60 a while back ago?????

SG45 posted this at 3:50 AM - December 12, 2003

Zoom Flight Turbines is still my favorite! Best shoe ever for guards! just cop'd one more white/black colorway from EastBay for $49! Now I got 3 turbines in my collection!
Btw, Does anyone know where I can find some Nike Air Jetflights??? Been looking for these for quite sometimes now! Please let me know! Thnx!

KO posted this at 8:49 AM - December 12, 2003

I just recently bought a kobe two with his signature on it for $1000+ !!!!. The auction was held few days ago. Anyone interested?

BlueDevil4 posted this at 7:33 PM - December 17, 2003

Anyone have the Zoom Pro Bowls
I might be getting these soon and wonder how they are
Thanks

HABEEB posted this at 5:51 AM - December 19, 2003

i recently got my pair of adidas a3... quite cool shoes... i wear them as a daily shoes... not on court... and kinda unconfortable if weared long time... the internal booties is too tight.. so my feet are like dead after a while... but damn good looking shoes...

www.footlocker.com
www.eastbay.com

are 60$ there

Chris posted this at 11:30 PM - December 20, 2003

I got tha new And 1 Rise. 'dem #@&*s is off da hook. Best basketball shoe I've work in awhile. They look stiff when you first buy em but they break in quck. They give great traction and support and they a damned good price @ 80 bones. I give my highest praise to the And 1 Rise. Oh yea they pretty much a guard/smallforward shoe.

J Dogg posted this at 7:36 AM - December 26, 2003

I have recently purchased the Shox Status,before I made my move I gathered intelligence from the Shox Supremacy review. I noticed that the outsole was the same for both which gave me the idea that this was the same shoe,just a different design for the upper.
I have not tried the Supremacy but its review sounds
just like the status feels.

In my opinion the Status might have been better off
with same inner lacing system as the Supremacy. The laces of the Status wrap around two plastic rods which make 6 of the 10 eyelets.I suspect I'm not getting the same customized and locked down fit.Plus I feel as if the plasic rods will break if I tie very tight.I'm also finding alot glue residue which leads me to believe that this shoe wasn't manufactured with alot of care.I'm hoping this doesn't compromise the durability because I am enthusiastic about this shoe.

I'm enjoying the cushioning and I'm heavy.The shox themselves handle my weight easily,unfortunately the zoom air probably will give up well before the columns.The responsive feel of zoom air wears away quickly in my experience,then again,I'm a F/C. So it's open for rebuttal. I find the cushioning well above average for it's weight,I can get out on the break easily.

I can't tell you much about the ankle support because I wear ankle braces. I've rolled my ankles more than you'd believe me and if you don't, your much braver than I. As for the comfort I feel as if I can wear them without socks but I've never done so and I'm not willing to start ever.Besides,I'm just describing the smoothness of the inner material.

My feet are narrow so the fit is good for me and the synthetic material around the toes probably won't stretch much.This material does show creasing around the big toes but it is to be expected.If your feet are wide I suggest trying 1 or 2 sizes larger than your normal size.

Well,this is my best take, look for the professor to give a more detailed and technical review.Like I said I'm enthusiasic about this shoe I believe it will score equal with the Shox Supremacy.I hope the status will last because durability is a trait I greatly appreciate in a shoe.

GP Balla #20 posted this at 10:44 PM - January 06, 2004

Hey, I wanna answer word's question of the stiff air sole cushoning.
Hey word after about 5 wearings the air sole unit gets really soft.

Mac posted this at 1:09 PM - February 02, 2004

Hey, I'm thinkin about getting a pair of Dada 4th quarter's but I can't after reading the review for the CDUBBZ I'm not sure about them. I live outside the US and can't get the 4th quarter's anywhere but the net, I don't wanna import them if they're gonna suck, and I can't even try them on first. Anyone tried them?

rico stinchcomb posted this at 12:15 PM - February 19, 2004

it is a lot of #@&*

rico stinchcomb posted this at 12:16 PM - February 19, 2004

it is a lot of #@&*

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